Turk: “I think many people are simply looking for something which has never existed in the history of time and space, and our expectations of others are too high and of ourselves are too low. That is: we want to find a church that makes us holy and perfect rather than seeing that Christ makes us holy and calls us out to be joined together in spite of the fact that none of us are right now perfect in ‘the things we do to ourselves and other people’ kind of way.”
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